Members Present
Ben Barcon Bob Ford Herb Hacker Peter Hemingway
Barbara Koffron Scott Mardian Herman Orcutt Danny Ortega Ken Roth Greg Russell
Steve Speer
Members Absent
Mike Colletto Stephen Elssmann Michael Fries Patricia Thornham Darrell Wilson
Staff
Tracy Bangor, City of Phoenix, Fire
Christy Blake, City of Phoenix, NSD
Karen Beckley, City of Phoenix, DSD
Carole Borrego,City of Phoenix, DSD
Marchelle Franklin, Mayor's Office
Will Hardy, Council District 2
Chaun Hill, City of Phoenix, Streets
Lionel Lyons, City of Phoenix, DSD Director
Joe McElvaney, City of Phoenix, DSD
Joanne Owens, City of Phoenix, DSD
John Watson, Phoenix Fire
Jon Wendt, City of Phoenix, DSD
Ex-Officio's Present
Larry Litchfield, City of Phoenix, DSD
Aaron LaRoque, City of Phoenix, Water Services
Patrick Ravenstein, City of Phoenix, NSD
Jim Baughman, City of Phoenix, Planning
Michael Hamblin, City of Phoenix, Law
Ex-Officio's Absent
No representative from Streets
Others in Attendance
Ray Bizal, NFPA
Rus Brock, Homebuilders Association
Dan Demland
Eric DeVito, Responisble Energy Codes Alliance
William Landman, SPCMA
Vince Territo, Todd and Associates
CALL TO ORDER
Herman Orcutt, DAB Chairperson, convened the meeting at 3:15p.m.
Approval of November 20, 2003 Minutes
Motion was made by Pete Hemingway,
seconded by Barbara Koffron, to approve the meeting minutes of November 20, 2003. Motion carried unanimously.
Discussion/Information/Possible Action on the City of Phoenix Accessible America Award:
Herb Hacker made a brief presentation on the City of Phoenix Accessible America Award. On December 29, 2003, Phoenix, Arizona
won the third annual Accessible America Award and $25,000. Phoenix surpassed 63 other American cities whose mayors or
chief elected officials submitted applications in 2003. Phoenix is being heralded as a model for its focus on disability
issues and it's successful design of programs, services, and facilities that are accessible for citizens and visitors who
have disabilities.
REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS:
None
DISCUSSION OF SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS:
Process and Procedures Subcommittee:
Ben Barcon stated that this subcommittee did not meet in January. The subcommittee will discuss fence permitting
issues at the February meeting.
Fiscal and Performance:
Scott Mardian reported that the Development Services Department is doing extremely well with cost recovery with 103% cost
recovery from last year. He continued to explain that they are working on making the DSD fee structure more consistent
and that the fees have not changed..
Technical:
The Technical Subcommittee did not meet in January.
Water Services Subcommittee:
Scott Mardian stated that The Water Department is formalizing a policy whereby housing developments will better be able
to predict the future availability of water and sewer services from nearby developments. The City will begin tracking
allocations. This should be of benefit to the Housing Industry. The final draft of the Water and Wastewater Manual
should be available for review the middle of February.
Mr. Mardian mentioned that the Water Department is considering reducing the prescribed 32-foot street width required for
services to 26'. This would benefit the Housing Industry. He also stated that the Lift Station Manual has received some
input from engineering firms. The final draft may be ready in April.
DISCUSSION/INFORMATION/POSSIBLE ACTION ON TRUNCTED DOME ON CURB CUTS:
Merry Schierhorst, Engineering Supervisor, EAS Department, distributed samples of truncated domes to the DAB for review.
She explained that the City of Phoenix is conducting a demonstration program for these detectable warning devices.
Various types of truncated domes are being evaluated to determine which ones are appropriate for use in Phoenix. An
important part of this program was to get input from customers through a survey. She stated that a task force has been
put together to determine if a full ramp of truncated domes would be required if it was determined that they are needed
in an area.
Ross Blakley, Assistant Street Transportation Director, reported that currently there are 18 sites that are available to
add truncated domes. It is being studied to determine which sites should have these and if City funds should be used to
install them. He explained that the majority of the disabled community received a survey and many different opinions have
been received regarding this issue.
Daniel Demland, Architect, addressed the DAB and distributed an article titled "Status of Requirements for Detectable
Warning." Mr. Demland stated that he has been researching truncated domes for years and stated that these cause hazardous
vehicular road conditions. Mr. Demland quoted statements from the article that he distributed to the DAB.
After discussion with the Board, Pete Hemingway suggested that an Ad Hoc Subcommittee be formed to discuss this issue
further. Ben Barcon suggested that the Process and Procedures Subcommittee address this issue at their next meeting.
DISCUSSION/INFORMATION/POSSIBLE ACTION ON A TRAINING PROGRAM FOR GENERAL INSPECTIONS IN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT:
Bob Goodhue, Deputy Director, DSD, presented a power point presentation to the DAB regarding the Training Program for
General Inspectors in DSD. This program has been started because at one time, most of the new hires came with years of
experience, requiring little more than orientation to the business before they were up and running. This is not the case
anymore. Without some sort of training program, the new hires had a rough transition period and huge learning curve when
starting at DSD.
Mr. Goodhue continued to explain that the training program is broken up into 13 modules, which include Customer Service
and KIVA. Rather than overwhelming the new employee with too much detail, they complete one module at a time. This time
allows the supervisors to track the new employee's progress. DSD is asking that all modules be completed within a 6-month
time frame.
DISCUSSION/INFORMATION/POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD RETREAT:
Date
Time
Location
Agenda Items
Herman Orcutt suggested three dates for the next DAB Retreat. It was decided to hold the retreat on Monday, March 15,
from 3:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. It will be held in City Hall on the first floor in Assembly Rooms B and C. Topics of the
retreat are still under discussion.
DISCUSSION/POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE UNIFORM FIRE CODE UPDATE - STANDARD ADOPTIONS:
Barbara Koffron, Fire Marshal, discussed the following articles that will be adopted by the Fire Department in the near future:
Amendments 1, 2, 3, and 4 to Article 10, Fire Protection Systems and Equipment
Amendment to Section 8201-Scope, Article 82, Liquefied Petroleum Gases
Amendment to Section 9002-UFC Standards, Article 90, Standards
Amendment to Section 9003-Recognized Standards, Article 90, Standards
Amendment to Section 6.3.2.2, Delete this section in its entirety. NFPA Standard 10, Standard for Portable Fire Extinguishers, 2002 Edition
Amendments to Sections 8-4.5.1 and 8-4.5.2, NFPA Standard 20, Standard for the Installation of Stationary Pumps for Fire Protection, 1999 Edition
Amendment to Section 5.4, NFPA Standard 58, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code, 2001 Edition
Amendment to Section 8.6.5.2, Obstructions to Sprinkler Discharge Pattern Development by deleting 8.6.5.2.1.4 in its entirety, NFPA 13, Standard for
the Installation of Sprinkler Systems, 2002 Edition
Amendment 7.4.5.2.1 Experience and Expertise, NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm Code2, 2002 Edition
Amendment UFC Standard 82-1, Uniform Fire Code Volume 2, Uniform Fire Code Standard 82-1, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Storage and Use
Kenneth Roth inquired about having at least one fire extinguisher on each floor in a parking garage. Ms. Koffron stated
that she will bring this issue up to the Fire Safety Advisory Board for further discussion and a possible amendment.
DISCUSSION/INFORMATION/POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE CITY OF PHOENIX BUILDING OFFICIAL POSITION:
Larry Litchfield, Assistant Director, DSD, stated that due to Rick Doell's retirement, he is filling in as the
interim Building Official for the City of Phoenix. DSD will be dividing the duties previously assigned to Mr. Doell into
two positions, Deputy Director and Building Official. Development Services will be doing an internal recruitment for the
Building Official and will do an external recruitment for the Deputy Director.
Call to the Public:
William Landman stated that he wanted to make a correction to the November 20, 2003 minutes. On page 13 of the minutes,
Ray Bizal's second comment on the page was incorrect. Mr. Bizal's statement is as follows: "The city of Pasadena Texas;
the State or Rhode Island has adopted portion of it; and the state of California has actually adopted the NFPA 5000."
Mr. Landman stated that Mr. Bizal's statement was incorrect. He stated that California has not adopted the NFPA 5000.
The California Building Standards Commission has recommended that the State adopt NFPA 5000. California regulators and
the regulated community have additional concerns about the adoption of NPFA 5000, including publication of California-only
amendments and that the California-only amendments are not developed within an ANSI process. He asked that the Board
reconsider their recommendation.
Ray Bizal, NFPA 5000, clarified the statement that he said in the November 2003 minutes. He stated that the state of
California has selected the NFPA 5000, NFPA 1, and the International Residential Codes. Currently they are working on the
state amendments.
Adjournment
MOTION was made by Pete Hemingway, seconded by Danny Ortega, to adjourn the
January 15, 2004 DAB meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted:
Larry Litchfield, P.E.
Assistant Director, Interim Building Official
Minutes Prepared by:
Carole Borrego, Secretary III
