March 21, 2002
| Members Present
John Augustine Ben Barcon Patricia Childs Gary L. Coley Stephen Elssmann Michael Friess Peter Hemingway David Kelly Barbara Koffron Larry Litchfield Scott Mardian Herman Orcutt Danny Ortega Judy Pavsek Greg Russell Steve Speer Darrell Wilson
Members Absent |
Staff and Interested Parties
Karen Beckley,, City of Phoenix, DSD Carole Borrego,City of Phoenix, DSD Jay DeWitt, City of Phoenix, CED Dwane Dovar, City of Phoenix, DSD Don Jones, City of Phoenix, Law Joe McElvaney, City of Phoenix, DSD Lanny McMahill, City of Phoenix, DSD Shawn Ortiz, City of Phoenix, DSD Joanne Owens, City of Phoenix, DSD John Parks, City of Phoenix, DSD George Ritchie, City of Phoenix, NSD Mary Schierhorst, City of Phoenix, EAS John Verdugo, City of Phoenix, Planning Tom Wandrie, City of Phoenix, DSD Jon Wendt, City of Phoenix, DSD
Ex-Officio's Present Ex-Officio's Absent
Rick Doell, City of Phoenix, DSD Public
Rus Brock, Homebuilders Association
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Pete Hemingway, DAB Chairperson, convened the meeting at 3:05 p.m.
MINUTES OF February 21, 2002:
MOTION was made by Steve Speer, seconded by Michael Friess, to approve the meeting minutes of February 21, 2002. Motion carried unanimously.
REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS:
Herman Orcutt suggested that a demonstration be done on the "Fee Simplification Program."
He state that the Fiscal Subcommittee is currently working on that project.
DISCUSSION OF SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS:
Executive
DID NOT MEET
Fiscal and Performance Subcommittee
Herman Orcutt stated that the Stabilization Fund Policy that the subcommittee has been working
was submitted to Lionel Lyons, DSD Director, and Alton Washington, City Manager's Office.
They are currently reviewing this policy and will provide feedback back to the subcommittee.
Mr. Orcutt stated that Development Services is slightly in the negative regarding the monthly
financial statement for 2002. To correct this, DSD has cut back on hiring outside consultants
for plan review.
Process and Procedures subcommittee:
Patricia Childs stated that Process and Procedures will be putting together a list of questions
that would be circulated to various departments to answer approximately five to six questions
as to what that particular department is doing. The questions would deal with what that
department is doing in the future that would impact the Development Services Department. This
would enable Development Services to have a "heads up" on projects before they actually come
into the department.
Technical Subcommittee:
DID NOT MEET
Hillside Subcommittee:
DID NOT MEET
On-Site Retention/Flood Plain Management:
Gary Coley stated that the subcommittee met on Monday, March 11th. The major part of the
meeting was reviewing potential changes and comments of the DRAFT document, along with timing
issues that the interchange of information was taking. Mr. Coley stated that Carnell Thurman,
Engineering Supervisor, would check dates to make official presentations of the DRAFT document
to the Engineer's Association, the Design Community, Deer Valley Partnership, etc. This issue
is moving forward with good consensus of this document.
Cost Recovery Ad Hoc Subcommittee:
DID NOT MEET
DISCUSSION/INFORMATION OF THE CODE ADOPTION OF THE NFPA 5000 BUILDING CODE, 2002 NEC ELECTRICAL
CODE, AND ANSI A17.1 ELEVATOR CODE:
Joe McElvaney, Fire Protection Engineer, DSD, stated that in September 2000, the Development
Advisory Board approved the code adoption process and timelines for code review and adoption,
which is referred to as the Five-Step Process. In December 2000, City Council approved the
Five-Step Process. Since then the DAB and City Council approved the 1999 Edition of the
National Electrical Code using this process. The 2000 Uniform Mechanical Code has been adopted,
without using this process because of the State mandate code force.
Currently, the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) 5000 Code is under review and is at Step 2 of the process. Step 2 consists of staff review. Staff is breaking up into different sections reviewing code modifications, interpretations, and amendments. Outside organizations, citizens, and DAB Board members will be involved to hear their input on the codes.
Currently, the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) 5000 Code is under review and is at Step 2 of the process. Step 2 consists of staff review. Staff is breaking up into different sections reviewing code modifications, interpretations, and amendments. Outside organizations, citizens, and DAB Board members will be involved to hear their input on the codes.
This year DSD Staff will be working on the NFPA 5000 Building Code, the National Electrical Code, which is NPFA 70 (2002 edition), the ASME 817.1 (elevator code), and the Automatic People Mover, which will be used from the airport parking lot to the terminal. Also, many homes are currently installing elevators for private use and staff needs to review these codes.
To keep everyone informed of the issues and their progression, write-ups will be placed in the Development Services Department Newsletter, which is published quarterly.
Gary Coley asked if the NFPA Code released and available. Mr. McElvaney stated that a third draft is available. Copies are being made and will be distributed to the DAB.
Mr. Coley stated that he is adamantly opposed to calling a code that is not completed a consensus code. He doesn't agree to the review before it's even fully available and released.
Mr. Orcutt asked what codes are the other cities in the valley using. Mr. McElvaney stated that it varies valleywide. Some cities are adopting ICC, some are adopting NFPA, while others are waiting to see what the City of Phoenix is using. Mr. Orcutt is concerned that various cities in the valley will be using different codes.
DISCUSSION/INFORMATION OF THE CODE ADOPTION OF THE NFPA 5000 BUILDING CODE, 2002 NEC ELECTRICAL
CODE, AND ANSI A17.1 ELEVATOR CODE:
Ms. Karen Beckley, Management Assistant II, DSD, briefed the DAB regarding how DSD is passing
the word along to the public regarding the ordinance change on the sprinkler requirements. To
date, large poster boards have been posted in the department for public view explaining the
changes that will take place. Handouts are available for the public on both the second and
third floors. A mailing was done on March 19th to all the professional organizations
explaining the public hearing and the proposal and an article will be written and placed
in the Developing Times Newsletter, which has an additional mailing list. The next step of
this change is to present it to the Public Safety Subcommittee of the City Council.
Mr. Scott Mardian asked if there was a City Council date for approval. Ms. Barbara Koffron stated that the Public Safety Subcommittee is tentatively planning to meet on this issue on April 2nd. She mentioned that all City Council members seem to be very supportive.
Mr Hemingway stated that the public hearing minutes needed to be approved then passed on to the Fire Safety Advisory Board for approval, also.
Mr. Coley stated that under the list of attendees a correction needs to be made by Fred Graves company name. He stated that the company name was RCI Systems, rather than ACI.
MOTION was made by Gary Coley, seconded by Dave Kelly, to approve Development Advisory Board/Fire Safety Advisory Board Sprinkler Ordinance Hearing minutes of March 8, 2002, with the noted change. Motion carried unanimously.
DISCUSSION/UPDATE OF COMMERCIAL DESIGN REVIEW:
Mr. John Parks, Principal Planner, DSD, gave a brief overview of the activities of the Design
Review Standards Committee and the Planning Commission. He stated that the Planning Commission
has two subcommittees; one dealing with Big Box retail development, 80,000 SF and larger; and
another dealing with commercial detail, 80,000 SF and less.
The Design Review Standards Committee has been reviewing Section 507 of the Zoning Ordinance, which is the Design Review Guideline Section that was initially adopted in 1991, and hasn't been review since then. Currently the subcommittee is working on eliminating some of the redundancies, rewriting some of the codes and making them clearer and exploring new topics that the city should be addressing. The Committee has been developing recommendations and working with Valley Partnership. The intent is this can all be pulled together as a package and be presented to the Villages in June 2002.
Mr. John Verdugo, Principal Planner, Planning, stated that a couple of years ago from the direction of the City Council, the Planning Commission initiated a text amendment on Big Box Development. The issue came down to dissatisfaction as to what we were getting in Phoenix regarding the Big Box detail versus what our neighboring communities were getting. The goal is to raise standards to a comparable level with what our neighboring community has. Representatives from the Big Box Developments have been at some of the meetings.
Additional amenities are needed at these locations. This would include additional landscaping, additional parking, and more lot coverage. The committee is working on what the community wants to be able function and bring in the tax revenue that the City wants to see. They are working on design standards for the large-scale retail uses.
DISCUSSION/UPDATE ON THE PHOENIX BUILDING CODE SECTION 1103.1.9.1 AND 1103.1.9.4
REQUIRING NO STEP ENTRANCES TO MODEL HOMES:
Mr. Tom Wandrie, Structural Plans Engineer, DSD, commented that the City of Phoenix made
amendments to the code for the no-step entry. This became effective on all model homes on
August 1, 2001. This means that any new structure that is being built must have a no-step
entry. Currently DSD is reviewing model home complex plans and site plans that show that.
A new procedure will go into effect on the new permits that are currently being issued. The permit description will now state "Model Home/No-Step Entry." Staff will be able to track it readily using this procedure.
Inspectors are currently talking with contractors informing them of the expectations regarding this issue. Some models already have this in effect. Shea Homes and Richmond American are using this new ordinance.
CALL TO PUBLIC (NO BOARD DISCUSSION):
Mr. Hemingway stated that a new Board member has been appointed to the Development Advisory
Board. Her name is Melissa Gallegos, who represents the Planning Commission. She will be
replacing Mr. Bob Frank.
Mr. Rus Brock, Homebuilders Association, stated that he has kept up with the cities that have adopted the International Building Codes. They are Gilbert, Surprise, Queen Creek, Peoria, Avondale, Goodyear, and Cave Creek. Each one of these cities has also adopted the 1999 Electrical Code.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION was made by Ben Barcon, seconded by Herman Orcutt, to adjourn the March 21, 2002 DAB meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
Session adjourned at 4:05 p.m.
Respectfully submitted:
Karen Beckley, Management Assistant II
For Rick Doell, P.E. Deputy Director, Building Official
Minutes Prepared by:
Carole Borrego, Secretary III
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Board Member Mayor Skip Rimsza City Council Members Mr. Fairbanks City Clerk Mr. Washington Mr. Lyons
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Mr. Wendt Mr. Goodhue Mr. Dolasinski Ms. McKinley Ms. Beckley Mr. Bunyard Mr. Doell Mr. Fleming Mr. Horne Mr. Kienow Mr. Mundy |
Mr Parks Ms. Reed Mr. Singbush Mr. Thurman Ms. Owens
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